Old Rachett 06 May 2023
#1I have a collection of handcuffs which were patented and  made by my late father at hiatts in BirminghamÂ
Does anyone have any ideas of the value ?
PaulJDavies 06 May 2023
#2Can you take a few photos so we know what models you have?
We'd be really interested in your father's involvement, what years he worked there - the story really?
The actual cuffs may be quite common unless they are prototypes.
Paul
PS, if you have trouble adding photos, you can email them to me atÂ
davies.paul@optusnet.com.auOld Rachett 06 May 2023
#3Hi Paul
Please see photos of handcuffs and parts I assume are prototype ?
Also photo of my late farther in a newspaper photo top right Walter Caves and a letter with regards to Mr La Trobe Owner ofÂ
Hiatts
He also identified a pair of handcuffs used in the great train robberyÂ
May need to send other photos as still navigating the site
Regards Dave
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#4Unknown / guest 06 May 2023
#5Hi Paul
Other informationÂ
Dave
PaulJDavies 06 May 2023
#6Thanks Dave, that is very interesting.
The Hiatt 1960 with the flat key and chrome plated, might be worth 200GBP.
The unplated version, if it is not stamped looks like a prototype. Value???
The Hiatt 1960 with the round key and chrome plated, is very common and might be worth 50.
I quite like the bottom left 1960 with the slot in the key post, I don't think that went into production.
The parts on far right look French, but someone else may know. Someone may be interest in the parts also, but maybe they could be sold as one lot, with all the history that goes with it.
I would like to see a better photo of the newspaper, so I can read it.
Thanks for sharing.
Paul
Old Rachett 06 May 2023
#7Hi Paul,
Thank you for the information I will be looking at selling as I would like to have my father and mothers headstone cleaned and this would help tremendously.
A little more information my father was the Forman at the factory and my brother worked alongside,I was supposed to follow in my father’s footsteps but life had a different route for me,
Please see photo as requested.
Regards Dave
PaulJDavies 06 May 2023
#8Dave, I wont be a buyer since I no longer collect cuffs newer that 1900. But I'm sure you will have plenty of interest for the prototypes.
Good luck
Paul
Old Rachett 06 May 2023
#9Hi Paul
Thank you for your help,
Is there any website or contacts who may be able me ?
Regards Dave
mummyslittleadmiral 06 May 2023
#10Hi,
Email me at
coxy@techie.com
I can possibly help with this
Kind regards
Coxy
PaulJDavies 06 May 2023
#11Old Rachett wrote:
↑May 06, 2023
Hi Paul
Thank you for your help,
Is there any website or contacts who may be able me ?
Regards Dave
This one of the websites, and I'm sure those interested will make contact.
There is also a facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/groups/703657786400691Old Rachett 06 May 2023
#12Hi Paul
There is a section on Hiatts in a book called Golden years of Birmingham isbn 9781900463040
If you need me to photo the pages please let me know and I will send to you
Dave
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#13Unknown / guest 06 May 2023
#14Hi Paul
Thank you for the contact details for the Doncaster museum, they now will be receiving the collection and my fathers work and memory will live on for future generations to see.
It has also given me funds to renovate my late fathers headstone so many thanks again
Should anyone who reads this forum and wish to have any further information with regards to Hiatts please contact me
aaronfirth 07 May 2023
#15So pleased these are staying in the uk. I’ll be proud to show visitors your fathers items it’s lovely that I will be able to put a face and some history to these items for others to enjoy. Thank you again and you must come and visit once DRM 2.0 is finished.
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Old Rachett 07 May 2023
#16Thank you Aaron for your kind message,
Please see photos of information in the golden years of Birmingham book ( Aaron I will be sending you a hard copy in the post )
Unknown / guest 08 May 2023
#17Photos of my late father Walter Caves making handcuffs at Hiatts
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#18Newspaper cuttings with regards to the great train robbery showing owner of Hiatts Handcuffs Mr La Trobe and my father Walter CavesÂ
Unknown / guest 08 May 2023
#19My father also went on television for a program called Pick a winner with regards to making handcuffs and was the winner on the day
Found this:Â
https://www.britishpathe.com/asset/244647/
Not sure if there's associated audio, I can't get it to play
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 --Vince
Old Rachett 09 May 2023
#22Hi Vince
Thank you for the clip not sure if my father got any interview with the tv, think it was just his boss but I do know that the tv program pick the winner was recorded but in them days I believe they re recorded other programs over this and others as I would love to find a clip of him to keep.
Regards Dave
chriscuffs6 09 May 2023
#23The Patent paper you show is for the Hiatt Reliant handcuff not their 1960 pattern. Although many of the 1960 handcuffs are marked Pat Pend they were never fully patented.
I visited Hiatt many times and knew Harry LaTrobe quite well, my first dealings with Hiatt was in about 1968. I also remember visiting them with my dear friend Alex Nichols in the mid 1980’s when Geoff Cross was the MD he introduced us to an elderly gentleman who worked at Hiatt during the 1940’s and who was there when the factory got bombed sorry but can not remember his name. Geoff Cross is now the MD at TCH who took over the premises a few years after Hiatt was taken over. He might remember the meeting?