ASP overpriced junk?

There are 5 parts to this dissection. I really believe they can be destroyed with a flat tip screwdriver!

I wasted 10 Minutes of my lifetime to watch your 5 pointless videos.
You showed that you have been able to remove the plastic coating from the ASP 200 handcuffs with a hammer. I doubt that anyone locked in these handcuffs would have been able to bear that procedure. Besides from that, this person would still have been locked in the ASP200 handcuffs after hammering the coating apart.
Maybe there is a benefit after all: despite all your criticism, you have proven that the ASP200 handcuffs are more stable than a brick...

Yea right. I can open these shit cuffs with a flat tip screwdriver and a pocket knife to chip this cheap ass plastic. Anyone can see who has owned them that they are junk compared to Smiths or Peerless and overpriced.

Fyi i just knocked the crap out of em for the fun of it. It didn't require it to just open em. The flimsy bows prove that

I could have saved you some time and effort. I stripped one side of a standard Model 100 cuff, a few years ago. I just wanted to see what was under the coating. I was disappointed in what I had found as well. Very thin, steel frame. ASP has since changed their manufacturing process. They no longer used this thin frame that is coated in the ASP protective coating. They now use and entire steel or aluminum body with the slight texturing added. You will find that the 2020-present models are much stronger and are not constructed like their older models. However, ASP does still severely lack in the anti shimming department, when it comes to single lock mode. Anything, thin, you can shove in between the pawl and the teeth on the swing arm will pop the cuffs open. Their double lock, is better than most though. They do still use the double sided keyhole, which is for officer convenience. But, raises security concerns of the prisoner capitalizing on that feature to defeat the cuffs. When the cuffs are properly secured, hands behind back, wrists turned out...the possibility of escape is minimalized. Never completely eliminated, as cuffs are just a temporary form of restraint. But, the proper cuffing technique, will greatly reduce the risk of escape.
-Richard Knip-

The overpriced is probably fair since the ASP are in the $70 range

asp is crap. which is weird because their expandable batons are pretty decent and respected. but the handcuff products have little to no resistance for anything. i myself busted an older pair with a screw driver just as you said. got out of them but ultimately destroyed them. and the new asp ultra cuffs are even worse imo. dont buy asp. way too much money. totally not worth it. yes handcuffed behind your back they will probably hold more than most subjects but that doesnt mean they're a good handcuff because so will garbage grade zip ties.

nothing is going to compare to pure thick steel cuffs. peerless, smith, winchester, chicago handcuffs. great brands. even some international brands are nice including yuil and perhaps alcyon. i like nextorch handcuffs but im lead to believe the build quality isnt much better than asp even though i have never had a pair. nextorch hinged and nextorch chain look nice though. and i know some lock pick guys love nextorch.

I have a confession, I love ASP. Their cuffs are comfy and I haven't had a pair fail on me.
Plus, the ease of swapping out the mechanism is great for longevity.

ASP are over-priced, yes. But hardly crap. Also you picked an old polymer over-mold pair which aren't even made any more. Regardless of what you can do to the handcuffs, if you are locked in them, the old ASP are just as secure as an all heavier steel model by S&W or Peerless. From what I heard the main issues were officer falls over and the double strand gets pinched and not swing-through any more. If they are left in a hot car the polymer can crack. During a scuffle the bow may feel like it went over the wrist securely but over-shoot outside the channel and not engage with the pawls.

Ok, so we know, everyone knows and everyone has known for YEARS that there were some drawbacks with the original polymer model's designs. But if you were locked in them, they were generally speaking just as secure as Peerless/S&W. So what did ASP do? They took feedback and came up with the ultracuff which was made out of forged aluminum. A much better design. They still have the great benefits of ASP like lightweight, the flat contact points to minimise injury during application, double-sided keyways, fast sizing adjustments by being able to re-double lock via the keyway. If you really work at it you might get the bow to overshoot the channel but I would say over all I love ASP.

The only new thing I got from your strung-out set of short videos where you destroy them, is that the old polymer was brittle. Was it brittle when they were brand new? Or did they become brittle with age? I do not recall anyone but you mentioning about the polymer being brittle. I recall there was a gun show or something where ASP had some of that same ordnance grade polymer and special gloves and were letting people try to see if they could bend it. It never appreciably bent much at all and it never snapped in a brittle fashion either.

A hammer is no greater threat in real life to ASP coating than, say, liquid nitrogen or a gas torch.

listen all these pretentious crap about the quality of asp cuffs. why you think a swing through bow missing the channel isn't a big deal i have no idea. the handcuff only has a few core expectations of performance. and if it can't meet the expectation of reliably making a positive swing through action with teeth connectivity then what can it do.

the fact the keyhole is the size of the grand canyon allows you to stick anything in the handcuff and pick it. you could probably use a steak knife if the point was narrow enough. and screw the triple pawls and security locking mechanisms. those arent much harder to defeat either.

and lets talk about the chain. its as weak as necklace. you want to talk about an easy case of chain binding? the weakest guy on the planet could snap the asp chain at the endpoints.

and then you act like the polymer coating cracking wasn't a big deal. and the ultra cuffs fixed all these problems. i dont believe the ultra cuffs have an improved locking mechanism or improved chain. 

so theyre probably just as vulnerable as any other model of asp. asp created a plastic toy product without the safety release. thats what these cuffs are. they look modern they get score a lot of points on the aesthetic design for sure. but functionality, reliability, security vs price point? 

why the hell would anyone spend $50+ on asp chain handcuffs or any other model of asp for that matter. and i think you missed the real point why ultra cuffs exist. its because they needed to compete with lower price points because when departments do their budgeting, you think theyre approving $50+ handcuff price points? thats why the ultra cuffs really exist.

so do me a favor sell your asp love somewhere else cause im all stocked up on bs here. *mic drop*

Good to see the forum alive and kicking...

its alive but when you have the same people promoting trash here its frustrating.

i mean $20 chicago chain handcuffs vs $50 asp chain handcuffs. theres no comparison in quality unless you want cool looking handcuffs that step away from the steel appeal.

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its alive but when you have the same people promoting trash here its frustrating.

i mean $20 chicago chain handcuffs vs $50 asp chain handcuffs. theres no comparison in quality unless you want cool looking handcuffs that step away from the steel appeal.

When comparing lock mechanism, ASP mechanism works smoothly and nicely. It does not stuck easily, not easy corrosion damages. So the mechanism itself in ASP is good.

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listen all these pretentious crap about the quality of asp cuffs. why you think a swing through bow missing the channel isn't a big deal i have no idea. the handcuff only has a few core expectations of performance. and if it can't meet the expectation of reliably making a positive swing through action with teeth connectivity then what can it do.

the fact the keyhole is the size of the grand canyon allows you to stick anything in the handcuff and pick it. you could probably use a steak knife if the point was narrow enough. and screw the triple pawls and security locking mechanisms. those arent much harder to defeat either.

and lets talk about the chain. its as weak as necklace. you want to talk about an easy case of chain binding? the weakest guy on the planet could snap the asp chain at the endpoints.

and then you act like the polymer coating cracking wasn't a big deal. and the ultra cuffs fixed all these problems. i dont believe the ultra cuffs have an improved locking mechanism or improved chain. 

so theyre probably just as vulnerable as any other model of asp. asp created a plastic toy product without the safety release. thats what these cuffs are. they look modern they get score a lot of points on the aesthetic design for sure. but functionality, reliability, security vs price point? 

why the hell would anyone spend $50+ on asp chain handcuffs or any other model of asp for that matter. and i think you missed the real point why ultra cuffs exist. its because they needed to compete with lower price points because when departments do their budgeting, you think theyre approving $50+ handcuff price points? thats why the ultra cuffs really exist.

so do me a favor sell your asp love somewhere else cause im all stocked up on bs here. *mic drop*

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So you're one of those people who can't understand that there are people who do not evaluate things the same way you do?

Ultracuffs are not particularly cheap... You really think Ultracuffs were made to compete in price and not in design feedback about the over-shooting?! That's some competative pricing, right there!


I did not see a video from you proving that you could easily break the chain. (by the way, S&W and Peerless chains can also be broken. It has been demonstrated on youtube over and over by TOOOL and ex-military people.)

The only times I heard of the polymer cracking was if it was left in a hot car and then it tended to crack around the double strand or boss rivet area.

The keyholes are larger than the grand canyon? You can pick S&W with binder clips, paper clips, bobby pins, pen clips and more... Almost every handcuff picking video tutorial is using S&W as the easy way to demonstrate picking lmao.

So you can sell your ASP hate as an anonymous person but we cannot "sell" our ASP love?

"so theyre probably just as vulnerable as any other model of asp" So you haven't actually had an ultracuff to even do an intelligent comparison. Perhaps you are unaware there are 4 lock types you can choose from depending on the level of security you need. Standard yellow has 1 pawl same as S&W and Peerless. Green has 3 pawls like British/American Hiatt/TCH amongst others. Blue is high security which requires a special key and is a pig to actually directly pick, though like S&W there are ways around it by easily disengaging the double lock and then shimming. Red are training ones which pull open without needing a key.

When you actually get an ultracuff, you be sure to let us all know exactly how much you hate those too.

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its alive but when you have the same people promoting trash here its frustrating.

i mean $20 chicago chain handcuffs vs $50 asp chain handcuffs. theres no comparison in quality unless you want cool looking handcuffs that step away from the steel appeal.

Apples and oranges. You are comparing relatively normal handcuffs that are manufactured more cheaply in south-east Asia vs all-American made ASP. ASP have more features than a basic handcuff as I mentioned before and won't go into. Also, it is more easy to injure people when using non-ASP handcuffs. And as I showed, yes American handcuffs can be also cheap. But ASP has put a lot of research and development and computer modelling into making their new designs. All that adds extra costs, including the differences in material types.

I guess the concept that some people like nice things has never crossed your mind. Yes you can use a cheap pair of Chicago or buy a cheap banger car, but you can't expect to be taken seriously if you are basically saying there's no point in expensive cars being made that have more options and features. It's called choice. If you do not have the money or want to buy an expensive car which has tons of nice features, that is your choice. You can go with a cheaper car which does the job.

Steel appeal? I take it you are against Chicago and Peerless lightweight aluminum handcuffs then?

My advice: Take your complaints about ASP's quality, directly to ASP. Send a message to their research and development department and unload your ideas to them. Collaborate with their team and design the ultimate handcuff that has ever been designed...but keep it under the competitive price point. I still want to see a video done of an officer locking you in the set of cuffs, the way they are trained to. Then, shoot the video of you breaking the chains with the cuffs behind your back, palms out, etc, etc. Chain binding is obviously not an issue that handcuff companies are worried about. Show us that it can be done with a set of cuffs placed properly on you. Then send that video to every cuff maker in America to prove your point! We have been through this ad nauseam. There is zero we can do about it on this forum. This is beyond beating a dead horse at this point. You are now pummeling the bones that remain of the long deceased equine!
-Richard Knip-

I'm pretty sure I saw a video or read info somewhere that the ultracuff has a ball bearing design on the swivels, especially to prevent chain snapping attacks. I'd try and seek the video on it again but I really can't be bothered at this point. But I am pretty sure it's accurate. I don't see S&W, Chicago, Peerless, CTS-Thompson, HIATT, UZI doing that lol. This guy . It's annoying enough to try and get the chain to bind when you are not even in the cuffs but just holding them. Let alone palms out behind the back. AND on top of everything else, cuffs are a temporary restraint and people are not supposed to be left alone while handcuffed. I would love it if chain snapping was eliminated but as you said RK, it's not a big enough issue for most manufacturers to take seriously and go through all that design and re-certification over it.

I voiced my issue to Kel-Met about their back-loading feature. The last proper click was not double-lockable and thus was unsafe in my opinion. I raised the issue with them and they tried different variations and sent me different versions to test, for free. Not sure if they fully resolved it, as at some point communication broke down and I never bought another one to try. But they did engage with me and seemed interested in trying to improve the design.

ASP may be the same way if this guy contacts them in a PROFESSIONAL and respectful, helpful way.

"The swivel has traditionally been the weakest part of any handcuff design. The ASP Sentry Handcuff uses a roller bearing style mechanism to provide 360 degree reinforcement of the swivel ensuring smooth, non-binding rotation."

https://www.handcuffwarehouse.com/ASP-Sentry-Handcuff

Not sure if the standard Ultracuffs have this, but it wouldn't surprise me (though I never heard it mentioned before). Either way it shows that they care about improving their design. And for the "steel appeal" guy who's been whining about ASP, maybe the cheaper Sentry might be worth a try............................

Just checked and both the Ultra series and the Ultra with Keyless Double Lock, have the ball bearing enhanced and reinforced swivels. In reading the informational booklet that comes with the cuffs, it also gives you the proper handcuffing techniques and clearly states that the cuffs go on behind the back, with palms facing out. Im sure there are people out there who cal still rotate their wrists to turn their palms facing inward, after being placed tightly in the cuffs. I cannot. I tightened the cuffs to the required "insert two finger tips between the bow and wrist" and found that I cannot rotate my wrists. Due to your wrist being an oval shape, rather than a round shape, that makes sense. Though, I have to admit that French made cuffs, La Massenotte, Rolivier, etc. and older German Clejuso cuffs had the oval shape designed into their cuffs. Which eliminated the possibility of rotating your wrist in the cuff.
-Richard Knip-

oh yeah the sentry are great cuffs. check out this amazing quality and security engineering from ASP



they really got their money out of r&d for sure. can't even defend against a window exploit lol

Believe it or not, I have reached out to ASP about this. The issue is the Double lock bar shape.
However if the double lock is set, the problem goes away.
Smith and Wesson have a far worse issue with their window exploit.

https://youtube.com/shorts/WsXAE0tn_eI? ... UhVMNcyRMH

And I am really proud that I was able to find these exploits and share them.

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oh yeah the sentry are great cuffs. check out this amazing quality and security engineering from ASP



they really got their money out of r&d for sure. can't even defend against a window exploit lol

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Hands behind back, palms facing out. Show me how youre going to use the window exploit. Besides. ASP addressed this concern and have done away with their window slots completely on the keyless double lock series of cuffs. https://www.handcuffwarehouse.com/asp-u ... ock-56060/
-Richard Knip-

Like Richard said - ASP Designs evolve all the time, and they take their security very seriously

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Like Richard said - ASP Designs evolve all the time, and they take their security very seriously

However, their prices are a bit too much. The Keyless Double lock leg irons are around $140, compared to a $40 S&W or Peerless comparable model. Their transport sets are crazy high priced!
-Richard Knip-

I agree - The gear is pricey.

I am still a fan of their gear though.

Perfect mix of lightweight and comfy.

I normally wait for the clearance sales

I 𝗟𝗢𝗩𝗘 ASP gear. The only issue of any substance is the somewhat prohibitive price for many. There is no WAY in the universe I would pay top wack for their rigid cuffs. $152 for a rigid handcuff is beyond the joke. Even if it were $99 it would still cost too much. I think due to procurement procedures for people like us in the UK I paid about £80 ish for my ASP rigids via eBay.

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oh yeah the sentry are great cuffs. check out this amazing quality and security engineering from ASP



they really got their money out of r&d for sure. can't even defend against a window exploit lol

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A little question: is it easier to get a special shim made of high-strength steel or a standard handcuff key? I have a whole box of keys, but I don’t have such a shim. What am I doing wrong?

I make my shims from cheap comb picks and jigglers.
The steel is harder as they are expected to be rattle around.
I then patiently file them down to required size and polish them.

I get it you guys LOVE ASP. there's nothing wrong with bootlicking a compqny you believe in. and I wish you would stop with the proper handcuff technique rhetoric.

first off most women and some men with smaller wrists can slip the tightest points on these cuffs. then many can bring their hands underneath them and to the front.

none of these handcuff manufacturers have addressed either of these problems. they make a big guy handcuff but not a small guy handcuff allowing women to slip them off.

they make a double link chain but no American manufacturer makes a single link chain to shorten the distance between the cuffs for smaller subjects so they can't bring their hands underneath their legs.

and last I could stick the compressed end of a coat hangar in the keyhole of an asp cuff. it's pretty wide and doesn't block much entering the keyway. and if you want improved key security you buy Chicago x22. 

you guys just like handcuffs that look good and there's nothing wrong with that. asp will take all the money you want to given them. 

and just for the recordmince hands a

and just for the record once the hands are brought in front of you the possibilities for a security breach are endless. so yes stopping this action is that important but yet noone has addressed it.

the solution?

make a smaller handcuff with a minimum closing perimeter of 5.0". make the handcuff with a single link chain. offer the handcuff in a universal keying and two or three bit keyed solution. stop the chain binding vulnerability like some of you say they have with their elite roller system

Chicago x22 are one of my favourite cuffs to pick and escape from. They use a split DL bar (due to the warding) and split shielded pawls. Unfortunately, the shielding helps hold the pawls in place so you can compromise them. They also shim super easily.

I personally enjoy picking handcuffs and love the challenge they present. I use ASP for what I want, as they have a very low failure rate. And as I mentioned before, they are user repairable by swapping out the mechanism.

Funnily enough, the aspects you don't like about the cuff, help make it more secure. The plastic DL bar is too light, and as such a kinetic attack is useless against them.

Every single handcuff has pros and cons.

If you are after a truly secure handcuff that you are not going to escape from, I suggest the lilly irons. They keep your hands well away from the centre lock device.

A modern version of this could well be the SHN XXL Hinged, or dare I say it, the infamous Chubb 1k52 Solution.

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I get it you guys LOVE ASP. there's nothing wrong with bootlicking a compqny you believe in. and I wish you would stop with the proper handcuff technique rhetoric.

first off most women and some men with smaller wrists can slip the tightest points on these cuffs. then many can bring their hands underneath them and to the front.

none of these handcuff manufacturers have addressed either of these problems. they make a big guy handcuff but not a small guy handcuff allowing women to slip them off.

they make a double link chain but no American manufacturer makes a single link chain to shorten the distance between the cuffs for smaller subjects so they can't bring their hands underneath their legs.

and last I could stick the compressed end of a coat hangar in the keyhole of an asp cuff. it's pretty wide and doesn't block much entering the keyway. and if you want improved key security you buy Chicago x22. 

you guys just like handcuffs that look good and there's nothing wrong with that. asp will take all the money you want to given them. 

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Did you look at the blue mechanism I told you about? It is identical to Chicago X22, only you get all the added features that ASP provides, at a higher cost for people who want more bells and whistles.

LMAO! You are on a site for handcuff collectors, as you have been told in the past. We buy cuffs that look good, cuffs that look bad, cuffs that function and cuffs that failed. We collect cuffs for many reasons. Many have limited their focus to a certain time frame, brand etc. Others, such as myself, collect one of everything. As a collector, i do not care about chain binding, cuff slipping, lock picking, etc. My cuffs are on display. I do not use them. As I have already informed you, take your complaints to the companies that can actually do  something to help you with your concerns. Take your complaints to a police officer's forum. Take the complaints to people who use cuffs for a living. The security issues with cuffs do not concern us on a collector's forum.

Bean Cobb Handcuffs from 1899 were insanely easy to use a lock pick to open. I have many of them in my collection. Why? Because they were a part of restraint technology and restraint history. Thats it. Besides, they have a unique look to them. They were also one of the first with a replaceable lock cylinder. Bokin handcuffs were probably the easiest cuffs to escape from. I still have sets in the collection. The key hole on a Bokin dwarves the keyhole on an ASP cuff. Forget picking the lock, you can about walk into the lock bodies an pull open the pawls! Ok, that was sarcasm to prove a point. You cannot physically walk into the cuff body of a Bokin cuff, but you can insert about any object small enough to enter the key way and open them. They were not secure at all.

In an arrest situation, you will not be left alone, unsupervised long enough to step through cuffs and perform the other maneuvers to actually escape the set of cuffs. Thats why they are called a temporary restraining device. They have a concrete room with a locking door with bars on the windows. The police will put you in a cage in their vehicle and take you to said facility with these cells to contain you and keep you until you make your court date, etc. I mention proper cuffing techniques because that is what every officer is trained to do. It will not stop all from rotating their wrists, but it will stop some from doing. As mentioned, I cannot. Some people can slip cuffs over their hands. They make disposable restraints that can keep them from slipping their restraints. Zip ties can close down tightly on the wrist of a person that can do that. They make different types of cuff accessories to keep people from using their hands, manipulating locks, etc. Blue boxes, black boxes, tubes, cuff bags, Cuff Aid device, Size reducers, etc. Step through an officer's cuffs and you will likely ride to jail, face down across the rear seat, hog tied. They use molded seats in many police vehicles to lock your hands in place and keep you from having movement to accomplish anything you are worried about here. People they label as a flight risk or are known to escape cuffs get arrested using different methods, styles, types of restraints. They people are transported in the same fashion. Chain Binding is a dead subject. If the chains were an issue that companies were worried about, placing chains on cuffs would have been outlawed a long time ago. They would have replaced them with cables, hinges, rigids, etc. Police would refuse to use chained cuffs if they were worried about it. Short of amputating both hands upon arrest, there is not a completely secure method of restraint and keeping people from using their hands for nefarious purposes . As was said in a famous quote by a famous escape artist, "anything created by man can be defeated by man." Yes, there have been instances and there will be instances in the future, where prisoner's have escaped from cuffs. It does happen. But not at huge levels to where an entire industry is going to scrap they way their product has been made since the mid 1900s, to create an entirely different method of restraint. Bring you issue directly to the companies that make cuffs are see what they say about it. Here...nothing is going to change.
-Richard Knip-

smh dont ever become a handcuff consultant. youll advise departments metal handcuffs with the safety release are OK and just to tell prisoners not to use it because they could face more charges and hogtied transport LOL

A "handcuff consultant?" I was unaware there existed such a position? As stated....I am a handcuff collector. Thats it.
-RK-

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smh dont ever become a handcuff consultant. youll advise departments metal handcuffs with the safety release are OK and just to tell prisoners not to use it because they could face more charges and hogtied transport LOL

You need to lay off the psychedelics. I think I found you on youtube:

May have been the ultracuff aluminium I was thinking of. I am pretty sure I saw the same thing with the polymer though, but it could be this I am remembering. Either way, that aluminium is strong as hell.

Also, they were around since 2016 (aluminium ultracuff):


So those polymer ones haven't been a main thing in a good 6 or 7 years. So busting up on ASP today for previous models of their cuffs is like busting on Hiatt today for having non-swing-through handcuffs (of yesteryear).

Real-world test of old model 100 polymer coated cuffs

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Real-world test of old model 100 polymer coated cuffs

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The officer in this video is obviously a notice. Any seasoned tested of ASP cuffs knows that to defeat them, you first have to remove the cuffs, then while they are off of your wrists, beat the piss out of them with a hammer. LOL! Im still waiting for the test video showing how steel American made cuffs cannot withstand a plasma cutter or a carbide bladed chop saw.  Rumor has it that disposable restraints can be defeated using a blow torch. But that isnt something that ive seen tested yet. Just a rumor, for now....
-RK-

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Real-world test of old model 100 polymer coated cuffs

The officer in this video is obviously a notice. Any seasoned tested of ASP cuffs knows that to defeat them, you first have to remove the cuffs, then while they are off of your wrists, beat the piss out of them with a hammer. LOL! Im still waiting for the test video showing how steel American made cuffs cannot withstand a plasma cutter or a carbide bladed chop saw.  Rumor has it that disposable restraints can be defeated using a blow torch. But that isnt something that ive seen tested yet. Just a rumor, for now....
-RK-

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Yes! Bolt cutters can be purchased at any hardware store. No chain can withstand it, whether with one link or two. Most people who like to make things with their own hands have a Dremel mini-drill with a metal cutting disc. No handcuffs can withstand a Dremel. The arrested person must be searched, therefore he cannot have either a hidden key or a hidden shim. Until the threat model and the intruder model are not formulated, everything will come down to fighting the spherical horse in a vacuum

ok so let me ask you this. can you buy the asp identifier ultra cuffs and replace the single pawl standard lock set with a high security or triple pawl if you desire?

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ok so let me ask you this. can you buy the asp identifier ultra cuffs and replace the single pawl standard lock set with a high security or triple pawl if you desire?

Yes. All ASP Ultra cuffs feature replaceable lock sets.  4 different lock sets are available. A single pawl, a triple pawl, a double pawl which requires a special split key and a training pawl that pulls open and does not require a key to unlock it. Replacing or swapping out the lock sets is an easy process.
-RK-

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ok so let me ask you this. can you buy the asp identifier ultra cuffs and replace the single pawl standard lock set with a high security or triple pawl if you desire?

I thought I covered that already? If you have watched any ASP videos about their handcuffs they explain they have interchangeable locksets. Here is a timecoded video 
The only ones that cannot be changed (I think) are the new Sentry which are specifically all steel and as-is like most handcuff manufacturers. Also the leg irons I believe require slightly different locks but apparently normal ones can be shaved to fit, though it's not ideal.

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ok so let me ask you this. can you buy the asp identifier ultra cuffs and replace the single pawl standard lock set with a high security or triple pawl if you desire?

I thought I covered that already? If you have watched any ASP videos about their handcuffs they explain they have interchangeable locksets. Here is a timecoded video  The only ones that cannot be changed (I think) are the new Sentry which are specifically all steel and as-is like most handcuff manufacturers. Also the leg irons I believe require slightly different locks but apparently normal ones can be shaved to fit, though it's not ideal.

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