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escapeguy 30 Mar 2024
#1
Hey all,
I have a great pair of Hamburg 8 non gimicked for sale and they are stamped AF.  I had another AF hamburg 8 but I am curious as to what the AF stands for?
Im assuming these are Keyser by the anchor on the key.
Any help is appreciated, I would be happy AF lol
Ian McColl 31 Mar 2024
#2
Working 'blue' again , christ thats funny.
Mark Lyons O--O Cuffs 31 Mar 2024
#3
Abercrombie & Fitch


This fine clothing retailer sold these handcuffs during the war years.
They supplied army and navy/submarine uniforms and private labeled helmets, medals, belts, holsters and handcuffs.  The Hamburg 8 cuffs were private labeled from Kayser.
Research that I found, shows that they sold only 250 of the AF marked cuffs since the early 1920's and should have an approximate value of $1,000 - 1,500, close to what I paid for this one from the family.
The pair that I have (#11 /4) has the Abercrombie & Fitch markings.  I got these from the estate of a family member years ago and was told that these are the ones hanging on the wall in Fitch's office. (below)
I think she was the grand or great grand daughter of Ezra Hasbrook Fitch.


Fitch with one of their Hamburg 8's -- Mine?


A jacket label from the warehouse inventory from Vienna. Vanek joined A&F sometime between WWl and WWll.


From wikipedia:

Founding

The company was originally established as Abercrombie Co. by David Abercrombie on June 4, 1892, in a small waterfront shop at 36 South Street in downtown Manhattan, New York. Wealthy New York businessman Ezra Fitch became one of the store's regular customers. In 1900, Fitch bought a major share in the growing Abercrombie Company and thus joined as co-founder.
The partnership between Abercrombie and Fitch did not end happily. The two men, with different visions for the future of A&F, quarreled frequently, although the company continued to prosper. Fitch wished to expand the company's appeal to the general public, while Abercrombie wanted to continue selling professional gear to professional outdoorsmen. As a result of the disagreement, Abercrombie sold his share in the company to Fitch in 1907 and returned to manufacturing outdoor goods. Fitch continued the business with other partners and directed the company as he pleased.

The Fitch years

Cover of A&F catalog from 1909.
  
 Inside the historical A&F 1909 catalog.

In 1917, the store moved into a 12-story building at the corner of Madison Avenue and East 45th Street. The store occupied the entire available space (12 stories).
The Madison Avenue store included many different amenities.
The basement housed a shooting range while on the mezzanine (main floor) paraphernalia for skiing, archery, free diving, and lawn games were sold.

Gun part manufacturer's order.


 The second through fifth floors were reserved for clothing that was suitable for different climate or terrains. On the sixth floor were a picture gallery, a bookstore a watch repair facility and a golf school.  The seventh floor included a gun room with hundreds of shotguns and rifles, decorated with stuffed game heads. The eighth floor contained fishing, camping, and boating equipment and included a desk for a fly- and bait-casting instructor who gave lessons at the pool, which was located on the roof. 
Abercrombie & Fitch Co. became the first American store to import Mahjong.  Ezra Fitch imported the game after a female customer looked for the game that she had played in China. He went to China for the game and translated the instructions into English. Mahjong became a fast-selling product, and Abercrombie & Fitch became the epicenter of the Mahjong craze.  The company sent emissaries to Chinese villages to buy as many Mahjong sets as possible and eventually sold over 12,000 sets.
In 1927, Abercrombie & Fitch outfitted Charles Lindbergh for his historic flight across the Atlantic Ocean.  It also attracted the business of other prominent figures.

Post-Fitch era.
In 1928, Fitch retired from the company and sold to his brother-in-law, James S. Cobb. Under Cobb, A&F acquired Von Lengerke & Detmold, a well-respected New York dealer of fine European-made sporting guns, as well as that company's Chicago branch, Von Lengerke & Antoine. Cobb also acquired Griffin & Howe, another gunsmith company.  Merchandise from both Von Lengerke & Detmold and Griffin & Howe was carried at A&F's Madison Avenue store.  
By 1929, sales of US$6.3 million were reported with net profits of US$548,000.
escapeguy 31 Mar 2024
#4
Mark is this for real? Abecrimbie and Futch the clothing store?
Whoah
Mark Lyons O--O Cuffs 01 Apr 2024
#5
escapeguy wrote: ↑
Mar 31, 2024
Mark is this for real? Abecrimbie and Futch the clothing store?  
Whoah
No!
This is not real.
In the grand tradition of our great friend, Lars Holst, he would be proud of me on this April Fools Day.  
Being that his passing prohibited him from posting something absurd here today, I wrote this bogus story to fool everyone, in his honor.
The wiki info is 100% copied from their website, but the pics were altered and the story I wrote outside of that is all BS.
I did however, spend some time trying to answer your question about "AF" but could not find anything.  Abercrombie was good enough to April Fool anyone who read my story.

Enjoy your day and don't believe anything you read until the 2nd!
Bjoern70 01 Apr 2024
#6
That would fit my first thought: 
AF => all faked...

Happy Fool's Day
Björn
escapeguy 01 Apr 2024
#7
Mark, you win the interwebs with that one. But don't quit your day job lol.
That was truly as good AF
the only thing that bothered me was the pic of the hamburg 8 on the wall, to me it seemed photoshopped in?
Best
and just you wait bwahahah evil laugh