I have just been looking over your museums website and was astonished to see another pair of Indian/Pakistan made cuffs.TSMarie wrote: ↑Aug 04, 2024Hello handcuff enthusiasts. I work at a historic museum and someone recently contacted me about a set of shackles they acquired in a box of auction items. I don't know anything about historic handcuffs and these do not match anything in our artifact collection. I'm inclined to think they are reproduction but I really can't speak with any authority so I'm curious what you all may be able to tell me, based on the photos. Thank you!
Hi,TSMarie wrote: ↑Aug 04, 2024Hello handcuff enthusiasts. I work at a historic museum and someone recently contacted me about a set of shackles they acquired in a box of auction items. I don't know anything about historic handcuffs and these do not match anything in our artifact collection. I'm inclined to think they are reproduction but I really can't speak with any authority so I'm curious what you all may be able to tell me, based on the photos. Thank you!
Very good analysis. It is unfortunate that so many people end up with modern-made Indian darby handcuffs and they are either lead to believe or perceive on their own that the handcuffs are very very old, like Victorian era. And it is understandable for anyone who has not seen many such genuinely old/antique cuffs to get an idea of the difference (your article can help in that regard). I think having one or two Indian modern ones can be ok as a representation of how things have changed but ideally, given that it is a museum, there should be some genuinely very very old proper brand ones too.Mark Lyons O--O Cuffs wrote: ↑Click to expand...Aug 05, 2024Hi,TSMarie wrote: ↑Aug 04, 2024Hello handcuff enthusiasts. I work at a historic museum and someone recently contacted me about a set of shackles they acquired in a box of auction items. I don't know anything about historic handcuffs and these do not match anything in our artifact collection. I'm inclined to think they are reproduction but I really can't speak with any authority so I'm curious what you all may be able to tell me, based on the photos. Thank you!
I urge you to remove your existing cuffs on display as they are replica irons.
If your budget allows for an upgrade, you can acquire authentic items, and they are not expensive at all.
Many people on this site may have some extra items that they could sell at a more modest price.
I have served in a local museum and have always believed that a museum should only display authentic and historical artifacts
Reproductions are acceptable only if the real item is unobtainable and stated that they are replicas.
I had a very nice selection of cuffs on display at the San Diego Sheriff Museum for about 20 years and all I have left is some higher end items.
Our museum closed due to Covid reasons, and I got my stuff back.
I am on the board of the new museum committee, and we hope to reopen at a new location for our 175th anniversary, next year.
Your items fall under the reproduction and fantasy category and unfortunately, these cuffs do find their way in a few museums. Many reputable auction houses are also fooled into thinking these cuffs are authentic and sales fetch up to several thousands of dollars.
I have witnessed quite a few of these in quality museums in my travels.
Years ago, I wrote this general guide that has help quite a few buyers who were just about ready to spend some good money for a worthless pile of junk.
I hope this will aid you in what items your museum should display.
https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=e6e19751 ... bnMv&ntb=1
I previously posted videos of the horrible working conditions of the metal foundries in India or Pakistan where the employees walk around barefoot and make peanuts for their work. These items are not really made for military or law enforcement needs, so the more the worker can make per hour, the more the money he can take home.silentbd wrote: ↑Click to expand...Aug 05, 2024Very good analysis. It is unfortunate that so many people end up with modern-made Indian darby handcuffs and they are either lead to believe or perceive on their own that the handcuffs are very very old, like Victorian era. And it is understandable for anyone who has not seen many such genuinely old/antique cuffs to get an idea of the difference (your article can help in that regard). I think having one or two Indian modern ones can be ok as a representation of how things have changed but ideally, given that it is a museum, there should be some genuinely very very old proper brand ones too.Mark Lyons O--O Cuffs wrote: ↑Aug 05, 2024Hi,TSMarie wrote: ↑Aug 04, 2024Hello handcuff enthusiasts. I work at a historic museum and someone recently contacted me about a set of shackles they acquired in a box of auction items. I don't know anything about historic handcuffs and these do not match anything in our artifact collection. I'm inclined to think they are reproduction but I really can't speak with any authority so I'm curious what you all may be able to tell me, based on the photos. Thank you!
I urge you to remove your existing cuffs on display as they are replica irons.
If your budget allows for an upgrade, you can acquire authentic items, and they are not expensive at all.
Many people on this site may have some extra items that they could sell at a more modest price.
I have served in a local museum and have always believed that a museum should only display authentic and historical artifacts
Reproductions are acceptable only if the real item is unobtainable and stated that they are replicas.
I had a very nice selection of cuffs on display at the San Diego Sheriff Museum for about 20 years and all I have left is some higher end items.
Our museum closed due to Covid reasons, and I got my stuff back.
I am on the board of the new museum committee, and we hope to reopen at a new location for our 175th anniversary, next year.
Your items fall under the reproduction and fantasy category and unfortunately, these cuffs do find their way in a few museums. Many reputable auction houses are also fooled into thinking these cuffs are authentic and sales fetch up to several thousands of dollars.
I have witnessed quite a few of these in quality museums in my travels.
Years ago, I wrote this general guide that has help quite a few buyers who were just about ready to spend some good money for a worthless pile of junk.
I hope this will aid you in what items your museum should display.
https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=e6e19751 ... bnMv&ntb=1
Genuinely old ones tend to be made with great care and pride in their blacksmithing craft, even very old Indian ones. But the modern ones, the quality just isn't there unfortunately. They feel rushed and made as cheaply as possible.
