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silentbd 21 Feb 2025
#1
Something novel, I thought I would make a post on this forum about handcuffs. I got a couple pairs the other day to add to my collection. The red ASP Model 100 training model with slip pawls (gimmicked) and the black folding rigid ASP Model 300.

I have wanted the folding rigid for a while, but was not a priority and the price was either too high or I had not enough money when they showed up. So I had to get them this time!

This brings me to 118 items in my restraints collection, 113 being handcuffs.

I love a gimmicked cuff because it lets you more safely experiment with lock picking cuffs without needing help and if someone wants to borrow a pair to use as part of a costume or something, they can be used safely knowing that nobody can get stuck in them. And since ASP locksets are typically replaceable, it's always nice to have a set you can swap out into a cuff if you really want to.
Birdbrain 22 Feb 2025
#2
silentbd wrote: ↑
Feb 21, 2025
Something novel, I thought I would make a post on this forum about handcuffs
Have you read the title for this group? Don't be a smartass.
thenarsian 22 Feb 2025
#3
I was reading the descriptions above each cuff and noted your comment about the Alcyon 15901.  In your opinion, what makes them a "very unreliable design?"
silentbd 22 Feb 2025
#4
thenarsian wrote: ↑
Feb 22, 2025
I was reading the descriptions above each cuff and noted your comment about the Alcyon 15901.  In your opinion, what makes them a "very unreliable design?"
They have a crunching wheel in the front. So how they are intended to work is you swing the bow over the wrist and then there's a cog in the front that spins as you tighten the cuff and then the pawls get engaged which lock the cuff in place as normal. This crunching wheel that spins as you tighten the cuff prevents you inserting shims to try and disengage the cuff if it's single locked. The problem is as the cog and/or the teeth on the bow wear, the perfect alignment no longer is perfect so what happens is you go to close the cuffs and the cog turns and then gets jammed as the bow locks into the pawls. So now the cuff is stuck in a non-undoable situation. Not good. It's now stuck on their wrist.
thenarsian 28 Feb 2025
#5
Thanks for the update
silentbd 28 Feb 2025
#6
The pair in my collection that you saw on the picture has not as of yet had this happen. But I did have a similar model which it did happen to. The only way to un-stick it was to rest it on a padlock and smack the bow hard with a hammer to force the situation, which naturally would do even more wear and tear to the mechanism. I gave that pair to CoxysPicks on youtube for future experimentation. But for safety, I keep my pair you saw double locked to prevent anyone putting them on. One side is double locked closed and the other is double locked open so that I can show the crunching wheel and know that nobody can put the cuffs on. Yuil had a similar design and they had to ditch it, way way before that HIATT had a similar design I think they called "reliant"? which is an ironic name for it. Though I am not sure if the Reliant had a pawl in addition to the crunching wheel or not, I am not sure. Either way they had massive returns and it was classed as a failure. Fantastic idea to add security, it just proved unreliable.

Youtube video of the problem
Ian McColl 01 Mar 2025
#7
The Hiatt Reliant had a cog wheel and not a crunching wheel. (I don't know what that is) It had a pawl to control the direction of the cog wheel, which the key lifted to release the cog to free wheel backward. The design idea is a good one but the manufacture tolerance and alignment was not.  It was hit and miss to make the bow enter the lock and mesh the rack on the bow with the cog wheel. Two out of three time it would collide tooth to tooth and not enter. Gotcha seems to have invested more in the design and manufacturing that this did happen.