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redware 20 Jun 2005
#1
I've always had an active interest in mechanical items and, until now, it has mostly been confined to antique firearms. I have only recently found an interest in restraints.

I'm not wealthy and I'm not entirely sure an interest in restraints will stay with me. That being said, I would love to hear some advice for a beginning collector. I've read a few books and looked at a few articles, but I am a strong believer in personal advice.

What would be some nice, inexpensive quality examples of american handcuffs that would make a good investment for a beginning collector? I'd hate to discourage myself by buying junk right at the start of my restraint collecting career.

Any help is very much appreciated.

Thanks
patrick-handboeienfreak 20 Jun 2005
#2
hi

I will give you the advice to buy a pair of smith&wesson m100 or m300
this are great american made handcuffs and they are not expensive
they are good quality cuffs with life guaranty

cheers

Patrick
stan willis 20 Jun 2005
#3
I've always had an active interest in mechanical items and, until now, it has mostly been confined to antique firearms. I have only recently found an interest in restraints.

I'm not wealthy and I'm not entirely sure an interest in restraints will stay with me. That being said, I would love to hear some advice for a beginning collector. I've read a few books and looked at a few articles, but I am a strong believer in personal advice.

What would be some nice, inexpensive quality examples of american handcuffs that would make a good investment for a beginning collector? I'd hate to discourage myself by buying junk right at the start of my restraint collecting career.

Any help is very much appreciated.

Thanks
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Buy handcuffs that you like. You can't buy cuffs for investment, as the market changes often. Cuffs in good condition might increase in value, but those in poor condition definitely will not.
Stan

Ian McColl 20 Jun 2005
#4
I've always had an active interest in mechanical items and, until now, it has mostly been confined to antique firearms. I have only recently found an interest in restraints.

I'm not wealthy and I'm not entirely sure an interest in restraints will stay with me. That being said, I would love to hear some advice for a beginning collector. I've read a few books and looked at a few articles, but I am a strong believer in personal advice.

What would be some nice, inexpensive quality examples of american handcuffs that would make a good investment for a beginning collector? I'd hate to discourage myself by buying junk right at the start of my restraint collecting career.

Any help is very much appreciated.

Thanks
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Hi, as well as getting some inexpensive cuffs to start with, I would suggest getting Stan Willis's CD ROM of handcuffs, this will wet your appetite for what is out there and keep your interest up. Even if you never can find some of the cuffs or afford them, you will have knowledge and that is priceless.

It's like having a big collection yourself by proxy.

Ian
Steve Santini 20 Jun 2005
#5
I've always had an active interest in mechanical items and, until now, it has mostly been confined to antique firearms. I have only recently found an interest in restraints.

I'm not wealthy and I'm not entirely sure an interest in restraints will stay with me. That being said, I would love to hear some advice for a beginning collector. I've read a few books and looked at a few articles, but I am a strong believer in personal advice.

What would be some nice, inexpensive quality examples of american handcuffs that would make a good investment for a beginning collector? I'd hate to discourage myself by buying junk right at the start of my restraint collecting career.

Any help is very much appreciated.

Thanks
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Hi,

One good source for acquiring a nice assortment of modern but different and International cuffs is Chris Patzer at Discount Handcuff Warehouse.

Chris has cuffs and leg irons of modern manufacture from many countries around the globe.

Even better is that his prices are very, very, good.

Welcome to a very interesting collecting field!

Steve Santini

John Bushey 21 Jun 2005
#6
I've always had an active interest in mechanical items and, until now, it has mostly been confined to antique firearms. I have only recently found an interest in restraints.

I'm not wealthy and I'm not entirely sure an interest in restraints will stay with me. That being said, I would love to hear some advice for a beginning collector. I've read a few books and looked at a few articles, but I am a strong believer in personal advice.

What would be some nice, inexpensive quality examples of american handcuffs that would make a good investment for a beginning collector? I'd hate to discourage myself by buying junk right at the start of my restraint collecting career.

Any help is very much appreciated.

Thanks
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Another bit of advice given to me years ago (which I never followed) is to find a focus. Even within the handcuff/restraint field you can focus. Do you want Handcuffs? thumbcuffs? leg irons? Or maybe pre-1950 as opposed to more modern cuffs? What do you want?? Maybe a variation of shapes, and not the variations of each model?? Qulaity or quantity is another question. It's up to you and what you like. Stick with USA restraints or go with something from each country?? I agree what Stan Willis said, go for quality with respect to condition. Good condition handcuffs that work and with a key are worth more than if they don't work or may be pitted with rust. Easier to resell. I sure don't have a lot of money, but have about 175 pair of handcuffs, including several in the "rare" category. But I also collect anything Houdini, and escape-artist related.
As for prices; look, learn, and spend what you can.
Roslyn_Walker 21 Jun 2005
#7
I've always had an active interest in mechanical items and, until now, it has mostly been confined to antique firearms. I have only recently found an interest in restraints.

I'm not wealthy and I'm not entirely sure an interest in restraints will stay with me. That being said, I would love to hear some advice for a beginning collector. I've read a few books and looked at a few articles, but I am a strong believer in personal advice.

What would be some nice, inexpensive quality examples of american handcuffs that would make a good investment for a beginning collector? I'd hate to discourage myself by buying junk right at the start of my restraint collecting career.

Any help is very much appreciated.

Thanks
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Just to point out that the DHW no longer posts internationally. They only post to the US and Canada now. For those who live else where you may want to check out www.thehandcuffshop.com like DHW they stock many cuffs from around the world and will post worldwide.

Have fun and take care,

Ros
Mark Lyons 21 Jun 2005
#8
I've always had an active interest in mechanical items and, until now, it has mostly been confined to antique firearms. I have only recently found an interest in restraints.

I'm not wealthy and I'm not entirely sure an interest in restraints will stay with me. That being said, I would love to hear some advice for a beginning collector. I've read a few books and looked at a few articles, but I am a strong believer in personal advice.

What would be some nice, inexpensive quality examples of american handcuffs that would make a good investment for a beginning collector? I'd hate to discourage myself by buying junk right at the start of my restraint collecting career.

Any help is very much appreciated.

Thanks
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Hi,
Since you have a background in antique firearms, I would suggest that you collect antique cuffs as well. If you are into flintlocks and such, you will most likely not find restraints from that era as they are rare and expensive. The one exception would be some of the slave trade items but beware, most of those items are reproductions. A nice slave shackle will run from 1 to 3 hundred bucks.
If you wish to collect from the Victorian era, you can find some great items for under $150. This is the "Golden Era" for handcuffs. You should start off with a pair of Towers and Mattatucks. They are the "Ford and Chevys" in the cuff world and you can find these mechanically superior restraints on ebay or gun shows. While they will not provide much of an investment, you will be able to sell them for what you paid if you decide to get out. Hopefully, your interest will persevere and you will find other variations and other makes to your liking. There are many more inexpensive antique cuffs that you can acquire to build up a nice collection. You are always welcome to come back to this forum and ask any questions about any future purchases or general info.
Modern cuffs are ok but the turn of the century cuffs are by far more interesting.
mark
TCCason 21 Jun 2005
#9
I've always had an active interest in mechanical items and, until now, it has mostly been confined to antique firearms. I have only recently found an interest in restraints.

I'm not wealthy and I'm not entirely sure an interest in restraints will stay with me. That being said, I would love to hear some advice for a beginning collector. I've read a few books and looked at a few articles, but I am a strong believer in personal advice.

What would be some nice, inexpensive quality examples of american handcuffs that would make a good investment for a beginning collector? I'd hate to discourage myself by buying junk right at the start of my restraint collecting career.

Any help is very much appreciated.

Thanks
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Hello & welcome, from another newbie collector.

A lot of good advice so far. One of the best points brought up is to have a focus when you start out. Personally, my handcuffs are an extension of my interest in Smith & Wesson firearms. That was my focus, and so far my purchases have been confined to that niche.

Like you, I don't have an enormous sum to spend, but while keeping within my meager budget I have managed to acquire some nice specimens. See my "new (old) S&W" post for an example. I have also had to let some really desireable items pass, because the price was just too high. Hey, that's life, and there will be another day.

EBay is a good source of used & vintage handcuffs, but know what you want and what you should reasonably expect to pay before you bid. Here is where the 'focus' will really help. There will be so many items, and you can't bid on them all. Keeping to your search focused will allow you to get familiar with the items you want to buy and their usual price ranges.

One thing to avoid, if possible, is buying NEW cuffs on eBay. More often than not, you end up paying more for a new handcuff on eBay than you would pay from a distributor. You can luck up on a deal now & then, but once the price hits about 75-80% of what the cuff sells for at a distributor, it's time to bail. It's not worth it unless there are extenuating circumstances, such as living in an area where it is difficult to get certain items.

If you are in the USA or Canada, then Discount Handcuff Warehouse is the place to go for new cuffs. I have dealt with them and highly recommend them. But as it was pointed out, they won't export.

Www.thehandcuffshop.com was mentioned. I checked them out, and they have a huge selection of foreign handcuffs, but little US made. Even though there is clearly a S&W box in the photo one the home page, there was not a single S&W cuff listed for sale. Bummer.

Good luck!
Atame 21 Jun 2005
#10
I've always had an active interest in mechanical items and, until now, it has mostly been confined to antique firearms. I have only recently found an interest in restraints.

I'm not wealthy and I'm not entirely sure an interest in restraints will stay with me. That being said, I would love to hear some advice for a beginning collector. I've read a few books and looked at a few articles, but I am a strong believer in personal advice.

What would be some nice, inexpensive quality examples of american handcuffs that would make a good investment for a beginning collector? I'd hate to discourage myself by buying junk right at the start of my restraint collecting career.

Any help is very much appreciated.

Thanks
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Hi,

www.Cuffsland.com is another shop that ships internationally and there even is a "collector's corner" where you can find some vintage restraints, which are out of production nowadays, e.g. old French Rivolier 1955, German Clejuso 12D and GDR Vopo, Polish handcuffs and more.

Regards,
Atame
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