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John Bushey 10 Jul 2005
#1
Hi everyone.
Please, if you're planning to attend the Cannon's Escape Convention in October, let me know. I'm wondering who will be there and who won't. I've got something in mind and am curious. Let's here from those going. It occurs to me to post a note that this convention is NOT only for escape artists, but for those interested in the allied fields, including handcuff collecting, lock collecting, and Houdini collectors. What made the last few conventions in Indy so incredibly fun (days of little sleep kind-of-fun) were the unique and rare restraints brought by collectors, the interesting stories of how they were acquired, etc.... We just get together and share our unique hobbies. So, who's going?
I know Ian McColl is coming all the way from Australia. I'm coming with Terry Roses (author of Story Locks, and veteran collector) from Duluth, Minnesota. Where are you coming from?
stan willis 10 Jul 2005
#2
I will be there from Cincinnati with handcuffs and antique lock picks and some old magic magazines and more.
Stan
Mark Lyons 10 Jul 2005
#3
Hi everyone.
Please, if you're planning to attend the Cannon's Escape Convention in October, let me know. I'm wondering who will be there and who won't. I've got something in mind and am curious. Let's here from those going. It occurs to me to post a note that this convention is NOT only for escape artists, but for those interested in the allied fields, including handcuff collecting, lock collecting, and Houdini collectors. What made the last few conventions in Indy so incredibly fun (days of little sleep kind-of-fun) were the unique and rare restraints brought by collectors, the interesting stories of how they were acquired, etc.... We just get together and share our unique hobbies. So, who's going?
I know Ian McColl is coming all the way from Australia. I'm coming with Terry Roses (author of Story Locks, and veteran collector) from Duluth, Minnesota. Where are you coming from?
I regret to inform you that I will be able to attend.
I am still looking for all those tables with bargains!
mark lyons
Joe Lauher 11 Jul 2005
#4
Hi everyone.
Please, if you're planning to attend the Cannon's Escape Convention in October, let me know. I'm wondering who will be there and who won't. I've got something in mind and am curious. Let's here from those going. It occurs to me to post a note that this convention is NOT only for escape artists, but for those interested in the allied fields, including handcuff collecting, lock collecting, and Houdini collectors. What made the last few conventions in Indy so incredibly fun (days of little sleep kind-of-fun) were the unique and rare restraints brought by collectors, the interesting stories of how they were acquired, etc.... We just get together and share our unique hobbies. So, who's going?
I know Ian McColl is coming all the way from Australia. I'm coming with Terry Roses (author of Story Locks, and veteran collector) from Duluth, Minnesota. Where are you coming from?
John

I will be there. I have already arranged to have someone cover my Friday lectures so I can fly out.

I hope that the first copies of the Hancuff Annual 2006 will also be there. It all depends upon getting it done in time this summer.

The convention should be a blast. I hope we have a good turn out.

cheers
Joe
Ian McColl 11 Jul 2005
#5
Hi everyone.
Please, if you're planning to attend the Cannon's Escape Convention in October, let me know. I'm wondering who will be there and who won't. I've got something in mind and am curious. Let's here from those going. It occurs to me to post a note that this convention is NOT only for escape artists, but for those interested in the allied fields, including handcuff collecting, lock collecting, and Houdini collectors. What made the last few conventions in Indy so incredibly fun (days of little sleep kind-of-fun) were the unique and rare restraints brought by collectors, the interesting stories of how they were acquired, etc.... We just get together and share our unique hobbies. So, who's going?
I know Ian McColl is coming all the way from Australia. I'm coming with Terry Roses (author of Story Locks, and veteran collector) from Duluth, Minnesota. Where are you coming from?
Hi, I will be there in Oct. and I am told that there will be several from overseas as well. If all goes well, Riley, Alex Nichols, hopefully Chris Gower and even Lars Holst will be there. It will be a blast for both the handcuff collectors and the escape artists alike.

see your there

Ian
larho01 11 Jul 2005
#6
Hi everyone.
Please, if you're planning to attend the Cannon's Escape Convention in October, let me know. I'm wondering who will be there and who won't. I've got something in mind and am curious. Let's here from those going. It occurs to me to post a note that this convention is NOT only for escape artists, but for those interested in the allied fields, including handcuff collecting, lock collecting, and Houdini collectors. What made the last few conventions in Indy so incredibly fun (days of little sleep kind-of-fun) were the unique and rare restraints brought by collectors, the interesting stories of how they were acquired, etc.... We just get together and share our unique hobbies. So, who's going?
I know Ian McColl is coming all the way from Australia. I'm coming with Terry Roses (author of Story Locks, and veteran collector) from Duluth, Minnesota. Where are you coming from?
Ian is right! I'm planning to go as well. What about our friends in Germany; Guenter and Michael? Any other European collectors?
/Lars
Michael Busch 11 Jul 2005
#7
Hi everyone.
Please, if you're planning to attend the Cannon's Escape Convention in October, let me know. I'm wondering who will be there and who won't. I've got something in mind and am curious. Let's here from those going. It occurs to me to post a note that this convention is NOT only for escape artists, but for those interested in the allied fields, including handcuff collecting, lock collecting, and Houdini collectors. What made the last few conventions in Indy so incredibly fun (days of little sleep kind-of-fun) were the unique and rare restraints brought by collectors, the interesting stories of how they were acquired, etc.... We just get together and share our unique hobbies. So, who's going?
I know Ian McColl is coming all the way from Australia. I'm coming with Terry Roses (author of Story Locks, and veteran collector) from Duluth, Minnesota. Where are you coming from?
Hello Everybody,

I have started a new job at the beginning of May this year, and as it seems I will again not be able to attend the Convention, as my new chief already is on vacation at this time and I will have to cover his work as well. I thought about flying in just for the Saturday, but this would leave me only very little time for actually attending the convention. As it seems I will again have to wait for another year. Please take lots of photos and post them here!


Best wishes to everyone,

Michael
Brad Darling 12 Jul 2005
#8
Hi everyone.
Please, if you're planning to attend the Cannon's Escape Convention in October, let me know. I'm wondering who will be there and who won't. I've got something in mind and am curious. Let's here from those going. It occurs to me to post a note that this convention is NOT only for escape artists, but for those interested in the allied fields, including handcuff collecting, lock collecting, and Houdini collectors. What made the last few conventions in Indy so incredibly fun (days of little sleep kind-of-fun) were the unique and rare restraints brought by collectors, the interesting stories of how they were acquired, etc.... We just get together and share our unique hobbies. So, who's going?
I know Ian McColl is coming all the way from Australia. I'm coming with Terry Roses (author of Story Locks, and veteran collector) from Duluth, Minnesota. Where are you coming from?
I'll be there with the table full of great bargains that Mark will be looking for.

See you there.

Brad
Joe Lauher 12 Jul 2005
#9
Hi everyone.
Please, if you're planning to attend the Cannon's Escape Convention in October, let me know. I'm wondering who will be there and who won't. I've got something in mind and am curious. Let's here from those going. It occurs to me to post a note that this convention is NOT only for escape artists, but for those interested in the allied fields, including handcuff collecting, lock collecting, and Houdini collectors. What made the last few conventions in Indy so incredibly fun (days of little sleep kind-of-fun) were the unique and rare restraints brought by collectors, the interesting stories of how they were acquired, etc.... We just get together and share our unique hobbies. So, who's going?
I know Ian McColl is coming all the way from Australia. I'm coming with Terry Roses (author of Story Locks, and veteran collector) from Duluth, Minnesota. Where are you coming from?
Brad has just sent me a "Super" article on Harrington & Richardson handcuffs.

Thanks Brad!

Joe
Atame 12 Jul 2005
#10
Hi everyone.
Please, if you're planning to attend the Cannon's Escape Convention in October, let me know. I'm wondering who will be there and who won't. I've got something in mind and am curious. Let's here from those going. It occurs to me to post a note that this convention is NOT only for escape artists, but for those interested in the allied fields, including handcuff collecting, lock collecting, and Houdini collectors. What made the last few conventions in Indy so incredibly fun (days of little sleep kind-of-fun) were the unique and rare restraints brought by collectors, the interesting stories of how they were acquired, etc.... We just get together and share our unique hobbies. So, who's going?
I know Ian McColl is coming all the way from Australia. I'm coming with Terry Roses (author of Story Locks, and veteran collector) from Duluth, Minnesota. Where are you coming from?
Hello everybody,

there are two problems, which make a trip to USA in October for Petra and me unlikely (but not totally impossible):
1. because of our quite expensive wedding, a trip to USA could be a little bit too big for us this year. So we thought about spending our delayed honeymoon in Greece.
2. At work I had book my main vacations at the very beginning of this year. And I booked it for September, because we launch an important IT project in October.

But I hope that next year will be a Con again, because I had not been to the States for three and to the South-West for five years.

Regards,
Guenter aka Atame
www.atame.info
John Bushey 27 Jul 2005
#11
Hi everyone.
Please, if you're planning to attend the Cannon's Escape Convention in October, let me know. I'm wondering who will be there and who won't. I've got something in mind and am curious. Let's here from those going. It occurs to me to post a note that this convention is NOT only for escape artists, but for those interested in the allied fields, including handcuff collecting, lock collecting, and Houdini collectors. What made the last few conventions in Indy so incredibly fun (days of little sleep kind-of-fun) were the unique and rare restraints brought by collectors, the interesting stories of how they were acquired, etc.... We just get together and share our unique hobbies. So, who's going?
I know Ian McColl is coming all the way from Australia. I'm coming with Terry Roses (author of Story Locks, and veteran collector) from Duluth, Minnesota. Where are you coming from?
HI again,
I've been on the phone and talked to several friends lately.
I'm hoping they will also be at the Ontario October convention. Several have told me they are trying to get tickets, others considering going, and a few checking schedules. Anyone else new going who hasn't posted here?
Let us know!
Steve Santini 27 Jul 2005
#12
Hi everyone.
Please, if you're planning to attend the Cannon's Escape Convention in October, let me know. I'm wondering who will be there and who won't. I've got something in mind and am curious. Let's here from those going. It occurs to me to post a note that this convention is NOT only for escape artists, but for those interested in the allied fields, including handcuff collecting, lock collecting, and Houdini collectors. What made the last few conventions in Indy so incredibly fun (days of little sleep kind-of-fun) were the unique and rare restraints brought by collectors, the interesting stories of how they were acquired, etc.... We just get together and share our unique hobbies. So, who's going?
I know Ian McColl is coming all the way from Australia. I'm coming with Terry Roses (author of Story Locks, and veteran collector) from Duluth, Minnesota. Where are you coming from?
Hi,

I am seriously considering going this year.

Problem is, I have some dates that are currently being worked out for a German, (and other countries in Europe), tour.

If this all does not conflict, I plan to try and get there.

Steve Santini
Michael Lee 01 Aug 2005
#13
Hi everyone.
Please, if you're planning to attend the Cannon's Escape Convention in October, let me know. I'm wondering who will be there and who won't. I've got something in mind and am curious. Let's here from those going. It occurs to me to post a note that this convention is NOT only for escape artists, but for those interested in the allied fields, including handcuff collecting, lock collecting, and Houdini collectors. What made the last few conventions in Indy so incredibly fun (days of little sleep kind-of-fun) were the unique and rare restraints brought by collectors, the interesting stories of how they were acquired, etc.... We just get together and share our unique hobbies. So, who's going?
I know Ian McColl is coming all the way from Australia. I'm coming with Terry Roses (author of Story Locks, and veteran collector) from Duluth, Minnesota. Where are you coming from?
Great to read of the many taking an active role in this years Convention.

I am sure that Mark & Sheila Cannon will be pleased with this Years turn out & make next Yrs Convention even more Spectacular.

This Afternoon I received a call from my pal MR Escape-Steve Baker who is excited to be part of this Yrs events.

Without a doubt I am sure his lecture will be a Winner and a real learning experience for all attending.

Should be a great time to see some ole friends once again Fox , Baker , MColl, Gunnerson amoung others .........

I Have informed the Cannon's that I will most Definatly be attending... should be Memoriable!


Michael Lee

Anonymous 01 Aug 2005
#14
Hi everyone.
Please, if you're planning to attend the Cannon's Escape Convention in October, let me know. I'm wondering who will be there and who won't. I've got something in mind and am curious. Let's here from those going. It occurs to me to post a note that this convention is NOT only for escape artists, but for those interested in the allied fields, including handcuff collecting, lock collecting, and Houdini collectors. What made the last few conventions in Indy so incredibly fun (days of little sleep kind-of-fun) were the unique and rare restraints brought by collectors, the interesting stories of how they were acquired, etc.... We just get together and share our unique hobbies. So, who's going?
I know Ian McColl is coming all the way from Australia. I'm coming with Terry Roses (author of Story Locks, and veteran collector) from Duluth, Minnesota. Where are you coming from?
The idea behind the convention is to check our egos at the door and leave the war zone behind.

The Cannon's put this together for us and we should show respect to them and leave the internet world where it is and fight on our own time not theirs.

Understand I am already saying what everone knows but it is just a friendly reminder.
Steve Santini 01 Aug 2005
#15
Hi everyone.
Please, if you're planning to attend the Cannon's Escape Convention in October, let me know. I'm wondering who will be there and who won't. I've got something in mind and am curious. Let's here from those going. It occurs to me to post a note that this convention is NOT only for escape artists, but for those interested in the allied fields, including handcuff collecting, lock collecting, and Houdini collectors. What made the last few conventions in Indy so incredibly fun (days of little sleep kind-of-fun) were the unique and rare restraints brought by collectors, the interesting stories of how they were acquired, etc.... We just get together and share our unique hobbies. So, who's going?
I know Ian McColl is coming all the way from Australia. I'm coming with Terry Roses (author of Story Locks, and veteran collector) from Duluth, Minnesota. Where are you coming from?
Correct!

I agree with you but some simply refuse to leave the egos anywhere else.

Besides, they would probably feel totally naked and vulnerable without them.

On a related note, ever notice how it is always the same people who try and stir up trouble?

Problem is, others that don't do a darn thing seem to get the brunt of it.

And the blame as well.

After reading the above post by Mr. Lee and after reading the recent chest thumping that goes on ad nauseum at The Magic Cafe, one considering going to the Cannon's Convention would have to ask a fairly obvious question...

Namely, why would anyone who has never been to a Cannons convention and who may consider going really want to be in the same room(s) as some of these same people responsible for this sort of taunting, game playing, and silliness?

Personally, I could think of a number of other more enjoyable ways to spend the ammount of money it would cost to travel a great distance, pay for accomodations, register, etc, only to be surrounded by certain individuals who just can't seem to ever come down to earth or talk a straight line.

I really wish the Cannons and all who may attend the very best of luck with this upcoming convention. Mark and Sheilla have done a great job getting these going and I only wish them continued success.

And, having said that, I really was considering going to this year's event.

However, it really makes very little sense for me to attend given small minded comments like the one above. In retrospect, it was probably a mistake for me to even mention that I was considering going.

Instead I will take the work (tour) thank you.

IMO, this event will do much better in the future if not only some select people check their egos at the door of the convention hall but if they also make an effort to do so on the internet as well.

Best wishes to all who will be in attendance this year and I hope you have a very enjoyable time!

Steve Santini





Bruce Thomson 01 Aug 2005
#16
Hi everyone.
Please, if you're planning to attend the Cannon's Escape Convention in October, let me know. I'm wondering who will be there and who won't. I've got something in mind and am curious. Let's here from those going. It occurs to me to post a note that this convention is NOT only for escape artists, but for those interested in the allied fields, including handcuff collecting, lock collecting, and Houdini collectors. What made the last few conventions in Indy so incredibly fun (days of little sleep kind-of-fun) were the unique and rare restraints brought by collectors, the interesting stories of how they were acquired, etc.... We just get together and share our unique hobbies. So, who's going?
I know Ian McColl is coming all the way from Australia. I'm coming with Terry Roses (author of Story Locks, and veteran collector) from Duluth, Minnesota. Where are you coming from?
Please reconsider and attend.
Anonymous 01 Aug 2005
#17
Hi everyone.
Please, if you're planning to attend the Cannon's Escape Convention in October, let me know. I'm wondering who will be there and who won't. I've got something in mind and am curious. Let's here from those going. It occurs to me to post a note that this convention is NOT only for escape artists, but for those interested in the allied fields, including handcuff collecting, lock collecting, and Houdini collectors. What made the last few conventions in Indy so incredibly fun (days of little sleep kind-of-fun) were the unique and rare restraints brought by collectors, the interesting stories of how they were acquired, etc.... We just get together and share our unique hobbies. So, who's going?
I know Ian McColl is coming all the way from Australia. I'm coming with Terry Roses (author of Story Locks, and veteran collector) from Duluth, Minnesota. Where are you coming from?
Am I missing something here? I did not take Micheal Lee's comment to be a negative one. Maybe I am out in left field, but it seemed to me that he wanted to attend especially since Santini is coming. I must be naive.
Annonymous 01 Aug 2005
#18
Hi everyone.
Please, if you're planning to attend the Cannon's Escape Convention in October, let me know. I'm wondering who will be there and who won't. I've got something in mind and am curious. Let's here from those going. It occurs to me to post a note that this convention is NOT only for escape artists, but for those interested in the allied fields, including handcuff collecting, lock collecting, and Houdini collectors. What made the last few conventions in Indy so incredibly fun (days of little sleep kind-of-fun) were the unique and rare restraints brought by collectors, the interesting stories of how they were acquired, etc.... We just get together and share our unique hobbies. So, who's going?
I know Ian McColl is coming all the way from Australia. I'm coming with Terry Roses (author of Story Locks, and veteran collector) from Duluth, Minnesota. Where are you coming from?
For those who know about the things Michael Lee has said and done in the past re: Mr. Santini on the Magic Cafe and other places, no explaination is needed.

I see Mr. Santini was at least gracious enough not to bring up specifics or start an unprofessional flaming war here.

Good for him.

Annonymous 02 Aug 2005
#19
Hi everyone.
Please, if you're planning to attend the Cannon's Escape Convention in October, let me know. I'm wondering who will be there and who won't. I've got something in mind and am curious. Let's here from those going. It occurs to me to post a note that this convention is NOT only for escape artists, but for those interested in the allied fields, including handcuff collecting, lock collecting, and Houdini collectors. What made the last few conventions in Indy so incredibly fun (days of little sleep kind-of-fun) were the unique and rare restraints brought by collectors, the interesting stories of how they were acquired, etc.... We just get together and share our unique hobbies. So, who's going?
I know Ian McColl is coming all the way from Australia. I'm coming with Terry Roses (author of Story Locks, and veteran collector) from Duluth, Minnesota. Where are you coming from?
When Steve Baker and his bullies come back down to earth, which is highly unlikely! Perhaps then, the Magic Cafe and other sites will become a pleasant place to visit again. Frankly, Steve Bakers off the planet, and over inflated ego, coupled with his serious lack of honesty, is one the Magic Cafe and other sites could do without. You wanna point fingers, start right there! I would not be surprised if you hear Baker claiming he invented the lightbulb next. That's how ridiculous his stories get!
Steve Santini 02 Aug 2005
#20
Hi everyone.
Please, if you're planning to attend the Cannon's Escape Convention in October, let me know. I'm wondering who will be there and who won't. I've got something in mind and am curious. Let's here from those going. It occurs to me to post a note that this convention is NOT only for escape artists, but for those interested in the allied fields, including handcuff collecting, lock collecting, and Houdini collectors. What made the last few conventions in Indy so incredibly fun (days of little sleep kind-of-fun) were the unique and rare restraints brought by collectors, the interesting stories of how they were acquired, etc.... We just get together and share our unique hobbies. So, who's going?
I know Ian McColl is coming all the way from Australia. I'm coming with Terry Roses (author of Story Locks, and veteran collector) from Duluth, Minnesota. Where are you coming from?
Hi,

Remember, this thread is about the Cannon's convention and that is what it should be about. Not bashing other escape performers. (besides, that happens all the time elsewhere so why let it continue here?)

I would like to attend, as I previously stated, but I have to wonder if it will be money well spent for a feeling of bortherhood that may in fact only be a facade.

Personally, and at this stage in my life and my career I prefer only to hang with and have contact with people I can trust and whose true intentions are known to me.

The problem I have, (and I am not saying others should have it also), is that a number of the people who will be in attendance have either done me wrong in the past or have spread negative opinions about me when they themselves have never even met me.

Now why would I wish to PAY to go and hang out with people like this?

Heck, I could walk down Young Street in Toronto at 3:00 in the morning and get the same vibe for free!

A few moons ago, Ian McColl and I made peace in a very public way on this forum and also at the Cafe.

Make no mistake, this is the way of the future for the sane and level headed.

Granted, there are others who refuse to look to the future and instead prefer to go on as they have always done.

Not me.

I really wanted to attend the convention this year. And please, just so Mr. Lee does not have the satisfaction of thinking it is was post and his post here alone that is making me rethink my attendance I want to state that it is not only this.

I invite everyone here to go and take a look at the posts which have appeared on The Magic Cafe over the past few weeks.

While they do not mention me by name and may have to do with other performers and escape subjects, a number of them reek of egos, idol worship, and odds and ends that simply have no place in my world.

I would willingly attend a convention of brothers and sisters.

Peers and equals who view each other exactly that way.

Sadly, that is not the way in the "escape world". It was not the way in Houdini's time and I doubt I will see it in my own.

BTW, if anyone hears of such a convention, (a true brotherhood without egos), please let me know and I will be the first one to register.

Steve Santini

P.S. Once again, please allow me to extend my congratulations to the Cannons for putting together such a fine and ambitious effort. May you play host to many more and may all in attendance have a great time!

annonymous 02 Aug 2005
#21
Hi everyone.
Please, if you're planning to attend the Cannon's Escape Convention in October, let me know. I'm wondering who will be there and who won't. I've got something in mind and am curious. Let's here from those going. It occurs to me to post a note that this convention is NOT only for escape artists, but for those interested in the allied fields, including handcuff collecting, lock collecting, and Houdini collectors. What made the last few conventions in Indy so incredibly fun (days of little sleep kind-of-fun) were the unique and rare restraints brought by collectors, the interesting stories of how they were acquired, etc.... We just get together and share our unique hobbies. So, who's going?
I know Ian McColl is coming all the way from Australia. I'm coming with Terry Roses (author of Story Locks, and veteran collector) from Duluth, Minnesota. Where are you coming from?
Great post Steve!
I know you didn't mention Steve Baker, but those are the types that stir the pot! I doubt people like Steve Baker will ever be sane and level headed! You will never have a "brotherhood convention" when you have people like Baker present. No, I'm not just signaling out Baker, but he is the leader of the pact! The one who is always making some absurd claim after another, and crying about something. I mean just look at that website of his! He has a video out and thinks he has takin over the world of escapes. He is so great, that not a word about him is found in any magical publication or book. And these types are gonna tear down others? Ok, I'm tired of talking about a hasbeen that never really was mentioned in any books.
Steve Santini 02 Aug 2005
#22
Hi everyone.
Please, if you're planning to attend the Cannon's Escape Convention in October, let me know. I'm wondering who will be there and who won't. I've got something in mind and am curious. Let's here from those going. It occurs to me to post a note that this convention is NOT only for escape artists, but for those interested in the allied fields, including handcuff collecting, lock collecting, and Houdini collectors. What made the last few conventions in Indy so incredibly fun (days of little sleep kind-of-fun) were the unique and rare restraints brought by collectors, the interesting stories of how they were acquired, etc.... We just get together and share our unique hobbies. So, who's going?
I know Ian McColl is coming all the way from Australia. I'm coming with Terry Roses (author of Story Locks, and veteran collector) from Duluth, Minnesota. Where are you coming from?
Just for the record,

I myself have never been mentioned in any magical publications save for those that I myself have written, (and perhaps a somewhat negative review of one of my books that appeared in an edition of Genii).

So, I guess such mention really may not mean that much after all.

Please do not misunderstand me.

I am in no way defending Steve Baker but I am trying to say that negativity of any kind only serves to hurt escapes and those in the field.

We should all try and stop for a moment and think of a sobering thought here.

Imagine some, or many, young escape performers who manage in a quest for knowledge to stumble onto this site of The Cafe.

What do you suppose their impressions would be after reading some of the posts?

Do you imagine they may start to think they had perhaps embraked down the wrong career path?

Is it possible that some of them may even begin to feel that a number of escape artists are paranoid, dellusional, and self serving ego maniacs?

You bet!

Is this the kind of image that best portrays escapology and it's devotees?

I think not!

Sure, there are those that have egos. I guess you kinda need something of an ego to be able to project that you are capable of doing things mere mortals cannot and could not accomplish.

Should you know better and behave in a different fashion around your own peers?

Certainly!

And why?...

Because, WE KNOW BETTER.

I think that until some select people in the art learn this there will always be discord.

And that is a real pity for the newcomers.

They will only learn by example.

And if that example is seeing others say "I am the greatest" (and BELIEVING IT!), or, "I invented this and you did not", then they will grow in the art with the same self serving and selfish stance.

And that is incredibly far from a good thing.

Sure, there are some in escapes who behave as a child would.

I imagine there are some like that in every walk of life.

However, if we, the custodians of the future only foster such behavior by doing things like slamming each other and hiding behind fake internet names then we have short circuited any future our art may even have.

Offer support.

Discard jealousy.

Live in the "real world."

Don't B.S. the B.S.er's

Post under your real name.

And, perhaps most importantly, think before you shoot off the mouth or type some crap for the WWW to see.

Remember, the person who sees it may need actual guidance as opposed to hearing how great one escape artist is vs. another.

Hopefully, with their conventions and dealership the Cannons are are least lighting a candle inside a dim and long tunnel.

Let's try and add to that light instead of snuffing it out.

Steve Santini


annonymous 02 Aug 2005
#23
Hi everyone.
Please, if you're planning to attend the Cannon's Escape Convention in October, let me know. I'm wondering who will be there and who won't. I've got something in mind and am curious. Let's here from those going. It occurs to me to post a note that this convention is NOT only for escape artists, but for those interested in the allied fields, including handcuff collecting, lock collecting, and Houdini collectors. What made the last few conventions in Indy so incredibly fun (days of little sleep kind-of-fun) were the unique and rare restraints brought by collectors, the interesting stories of how they were acquired, etc.... We just get together and share our unique hobbies. So, who's going?
I know Ian McColl is coming all the way from Australia. I'm coming with Terry Roses (author of Story Locks, and veteran collector) from Duluth, Minnesota. Where are you coming from?
Boy Steve, you said it all right there! My only hope is that people (newcomers)and even some of the so called pros can see through the charlatans like Baker and a few others for what they really are! I don't what else to add, you really said it all Steve! Thanks for that post!
John Bushey 02 Aug 2005
#24
Hi everyone.
Please, if you're planning to attend the Cannon's Escape Convention in October, let me know. I'm wondering who will be there and who won't. I've got something in mind and am curious. Let's here from those going. It occurs to me to post a note that this convention is NOT only for escape artists, but for those interested in the allied fields, including handcuff collecting, lock collecting, and Houdini collectors. What made the last few conventions in Indy so incredibly fun (days of little sleep kind-of-fun) were the unique and rare restraints brought by collectors, the interesting stories of how they were acquired, etc.... We just get together and share our unique hobbies. So, who's going?
I know Ian McColl is coming all the way from Australia. I'm coming with Terry Roses (author of Story Locks, and veteran collector) from Duluth, Minnesota. Where are you coming from?
Hi,
I started this thread to find out who is going and who isn't.
I'd like to everyone there. ALL the get-togethers at Indy were No-ego's, pure fun, everyone with similar interests talking, showing each other escapes, and talking the trade.
Let's keep it that way, PERIOD. No more "but...." or "he said...". Steve, love to meet you and see you there, as well as everyone else that can make it. Sincerely, John Bushey
Mark Lyons 02 Aug 2005
#25
Hi everyone.
Please, if you're planning to attend the Cannon's Escape Convention in October, let me know. I'm wondering who will be there and who won't. I've got something in mind and am curious. Let's here from those going. It occurs to me to post a note that this convention is NOT only for escape artists, but for those interested in the allied fields, including handcuff collecting, lock collecting, and Houdini collectors. What made the last few conventions in Indy so incredibly fun (days of little sleep kind-of-fun) were the unique and rare restraints brought by collectors, the interesting stories of how they were acquired, etc.... We just get together and share our unique hobbies. So, who's going?
I know Ian McColl is coming all the way from Australia. I'm coming with Terry Roses (author of Story Locks, and veteran collector) from Duluth, Minnesota. Where are you coming from?
John, I agree!...well sort of.
I went to the first indy-escape show and had a fantastic time! I regret that I didn't make it to the second one. It was there that I met you, Ian, Stan, Mark, Terry, Shawn, and so many other great people. I would like to meet lots more people and see that everyone who comes to this one can have another great time.
On the other hand, if some of these guys can't even get along on this web-site then perhaps it is best that they battle it out here and don't come to the show as they would only ruin mine and everyone else's valuable time.
Even though this web-site is limited to the historical discussion of handcuffs and is not about modern escape artists with mental problems, I would rather this be the war zone as I can easily ignore these foolish and infantile babblings here!
m
Ian McColl 02 Aug 2005
#26
Hi everyone.
Please, if you're planning to attend the Cannon's Escape Convention in October, let me know. I'm wondering who will be there and who won't. I've got something in mind and am curious. Let's here from those going. It occurs to me to post a note that this convention is NOT only for escape artists, but for those interested in the allied fields, including handcuff collecting, lock collecting, and Houdini collectors. What made the last few conventions in Indy so incredibly fun (days of little sleep kind-of-fun) were the unique and rare restraints brought by collectors, the interesting stories of how they were acquired, etc.... We just get together and share our unique hobbies. So, who's going?
I know Ian McColl is coming all the way from Australia. I'm coming with Terry Roses (author of Story Locks, and veteran collector) from Duluth, Minnesota. Where are you coming from?
Hi John, Mark and Steve, I agree with all your comments entirely. I hope all will come and like the first one I attended, everyone will get along, I am sure. The sum is greater than the individual parts. The convention is for all of us, set up and started by the Cannon's for the people and made up of the people.

Like the first one, the overwhelming knowledge to be gained, people to meet and things to do will over-ride any silly stuff and as there will be more who are their to enjoy themselves than not. The bad guys (which I truly doubt) will be out gunned anyway.

It's not a probelm and shouldn't a concern.

See you there.

Ian McColl

lauher 02 Aug 2005
#27
Hi everyone.
Please, if you're planning to attend the Cannon's Escape Convention in October, let me know. I'm wondering who will be there and who won't. I've got something in mind and am curious. Let's here from those going. It occurs to me to post a note that this convention is NOT only for escape artists, but for those interested in the allied fields, including handcuff collecting, lock collecting, and Houdini collectors. What made the last few conventions in Indy so incredibly fun (days of little sleep kind-of-fun) were the unique and rare restraints brought by collectors, the interesting stories of how they were acquired, etc.... We just get together and share our unique hobbies. So, who's going?
I know Ian McColl is coming all the way from Australia. I'm coming with Terry Roses (author of Story Locks, and veteran collector) from Duluth, Minnesota. Where are you coming from?
Remember everyone, the convention is all about having a good time.

Please don't bring your negative comments here. Earlier this summer I nearly had to close the forum. So let us keep it all friendly. I have just editted some messages and deleted others from this particular thread.

So to keep things on track. I will pose a new question.

Who would look the best in Margarette's shorts this year?

Hint: Mark Lyons is not the correct answer.

Joe