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Jack Tanis 15 Aug 2005
#1
Hello,

I welcome any information about Hiatt spurs, as in "spurs, not handcuffs". Neither the chairman of nor the historian at Hiatts are aware Hiatt ever made spurs, yet Hiatt indeed did produce them. If anyone has light to shed on the subject, please shine it this way.

Cheers,

Jack
Joe Lauher 16 Aug 2005
#2
Jack

I associate Spurs with either Tottenham or San Antonio, but I would not be surprised to hear that Hiatt would have made them. They made all sorts of things including horse collars, nails, and ferret muzzles. A company that could make ferret muzzles could certainly make spurs.

Joe
Jack Tanis 16 Aug 2005
#3
Hello,

I welcome any information about Hiatt spurs, as in "spurs, not handcuffs". Neither the chairman of nor the historian at Hiatts are aware Hiatt ever made spurs, yet Hiatt indeed did produce them. If anyone has light to shed on the subject, please shine it this way.

Cheers,

Jack
Dear Joe,

The surprise is not that Hiatt made spurs, but that they have no record of and no recollection of ever having made them.

For instance, I have two variants of Hiatt's bull nose ring, about which there is relatively detailed information. In contrast, they have not one scrap of information about their spurs, including the spurs' very existence.

Hence, this message thread.

Cheers,

Jack
joe tanner 17 Aug 2005
#4
Hello,

I welcome any information about Hiatt spurs, as in "spurs, not handcuffs". Neither the chairman of nor the historian at Hiatts are aware Hiatt ever made spurs, yet Hiatt indeed did produce them. If anyone has light to shed on the subject, please shine it this way.

Cheers,

Jack
not to say that HIATT never made SPURS as who knows they may have made a few for the DARTMOOR PRISON RODEOS !! or for the early ranchers over there....or maybe the markings have been FORGED like many many other items have been.... the HIATT co has gone thru 3 different FIRES in its day & most if not all of the early early records & papers were distroyed, therefor the people now at HIATT & those who have been there over the past 75 years KNOW NOTHING of the former company.... althou, i have TONS of OLD OLD OLD literature, phamphlets, letters etc etc of & from the HIATT co & none of it mentions or shows any pics or drawings of any SPURS.... i also was a SPUR collector for 13-14 years & had a nice collection of them, but never heard of or seen any spurs marked HIATT....those i surely would have kept ! unlike restraints, i was a novice collector at spurs thou..... maybe JACK could post a photo of the SPURS & the HIATT marking... it would be nice to see....joe
Jack Tanis 17 Aug 2005
#5
Hello,

I welcome any information about Hiatt spurs, as in "spurs, not handcuffs". Neither the chairman of nor the historian at Hiatts are aware Hiatt ever made spurs, yet Hiatt indeed did produce them. If anyone has light to shed on the subject, please shine it this way.

Cheers,

Jack
Dear Joe,


I have two pairs of Hiatt spurs. The first picture shows the markings, which are B.R.F.A. over HIATT over BIRMM [BIRMINGHAM], located on the heel of each spur. These spurs are complete with their straps. I do not know for what the initials B.R.F.A. stand.





The second picture does not show the markings. My scanner -- I do not have a digital camera -- would not get a clear image of them. These spurs have heel spikes. The heel of each spur is stamp-marked SOLID NICKEL above the spike and, as on the above pair, HIATT over BIRMM [again an abbreviation for BIRMINGHAM] below the spike.





The rowels rotate freely and have a mild sunburst pattern.


Cheers,
Jack
joe tanner 17 Aug 2005
#6
Hello,

I welcome any information about Hiatt spurs, as in "spurs, not handcuffs". Neither the chairman of nor the historian at Hiatts are aware Hiatt ever made spurs, yet Hiatt indeed did produce them. If anyone has light to shed on the subject, please shine it this way.

Cheers,

Jack
JACK : many thanks for the photos....BIRMINGHAM RURAL FARMERS ASSOC.??? just kidding.....i don't see how the markings could be legite HIATT COMPANY made markings as the spurs are way to modern....althou an EMPLOYEE could have marked them THEMSELFS for their own use, or for other people or to make $$ on them over & above the spur value....who knows what people do now days to make a fast buck.... they look well marked thou, so what the heck !!! joe
Jack Tanis 17 Aug 2005
#7
Hello,

I welcome any information about Hiatt spurs, as in "spurs, not handcuffs". Neither the chairman of nor the historian at Hiatts are aware Hiatt ever made spurs, yet Hiatt indeed did produce them. If anyone has light to shed on the subject, please shine it this way.

Cheers,

Jack
Dear Joe,

In puzzling over the initials on the top pair of spurs, the closest I got was British Rugby Followers Association. Although an actual organisation, I think it not close enough, and puzzling is what I am trying to avoid.

The only thing about which I am sure is that the marks are genuine. Each pair came from a different, unrelated source at a different time. And, B.R.F.A. is not the same as SOLID NICKEL. What you probably can not see in the inset image of the marks is that there is a 3-digit number, which is different on each spur of the first pair. All told, and in conjunction with the clarity of the markings, this would have been a massive amount of work to place multiple, varied fake marks on the most difficult, least accessible area of two (or however-many) pairs of spurs, one pair with and one pair without heel spikes.

In the BIRMM mark, the trailing M is not truly underscored. That is more a short dash, which I can not recreate with HTML, much the same way Company is abbreviated as Co or CO, a common practise.

It certainly is possible Hiatt never put its spurs on the commercial consumer market, yet that goes back to puzzling. I have speculated enough, all to no avail. What I need are clues. (I don't care much for being clueless!)

If you come across anything else, feel free to post it.

Cheers,

Jack
Joe Lauher 17 Aug 2005
#8
Hello,

I welcome any information about Hiatt spurs, as in "spurs, not handcuffs". Neither the chairman of nor the historian at Hiatts are aware Hiatt ever made spurs, yet Hiatt indeed did produce them. If anyone has light to shed on the subject, please shine it this way.

Cheers,

Jack
Jack

The BIRMM mark is used on Hiatt handcuffs as well. Here is an example from a cuff also marked with the year 1887.



When do you think the spurs were made?

Joe
Jack Tanis 17 Aug 2005
#9
Hello,

I welcome any information about Hiatt spurs, as in "spurs, not handcuffs". Neither the chairman of nor the historian at Hiatts are aware Hiatt ever made spurs, yet Hiatt indeed did produce them. If anyone has light to shed on the subject, please shine it this way.

Cheers,

Jack
Dear Joe,

It is good to know the BIRMM mark squares. It also would be good if I knew about spurs, but I do not. A bit of searching located a pair of regimental military spurs from the Second World War of the same pattern or style, although they were not made by Hiatt.

I acquired my two pairs because they are Hiatt and also because I have been watching and waiting for Hiatt spurs. Four or five years ago, I saw a single Hiatt spur, with the heel spike. It was too dear for me, and whilst of obvious if ancillary interest for being Hiatt, I wanted a pair of spurs rather than a single spur. I got the pair with the straps earlier this year and the pair with the heel spikes very recently. Soon after getting the first pair, I contacted Hiatts, getting the essentially "What spurs?" reply.

From the condition of both pairs, which is excellent, I can not imagine they are even close to being as old as your handcuffs. Still, all I can state confidently about that style of spur is it was in use during World War II. How long before or after that is something I simply do not -- yet would like to -- know.

Cheers,

Jack
Eddie Witt 27 Aug 2011
#10
Hello,

I welcome any information about Hiatt spurs, as in "spurs, not handcuffs". Neither the chairman of nor the historian at Hiatts are aware Hiatt ever made spurs, yet Hiatt indeed did produce them. If anyone has light to shed on the subject, please shine it this way.

Cheers,

Jack
I just purchased a pair of Hiatt BRIMM with the underscore M. the heel area has wear but you can make out that they are nickle. These also have a M108 stamped on the shank going to the spur, so I am thinking they are military but I have no idea of value or time frame that they were used. They came with full leather straps with a 10 punched on each flap. Any info on these would be greatly appreciated, I paid $40 for the pair and they are in great shape so I believe I did well cause they are a matched pair.

Eddie
Eddie Witt 27 Aug 2011
#11
Hello,

I welcome any information about Hiatt spurs, as in "spurs, not handcuffs". Neither the chairman of nor the historian at Hiatts are aware Hiatt ever made spurs, yet Hiatt indeed did produce them. If anyone has light to shed on the subject, please shine it this way.

Cheers,

Jack
I just purchased a pair of Hiatt BRIMM with the underscore M. the heel area has wear but you can make out that they are nickle. These also have a M108 stamped on the shank going to the spur, so I am thinking they are military but I have no idea of value or time frame that they were used. They came with full leather straps with a 10 punched on each flap. Any info on these would be greatly appreciated, I paid $40 for the pair and they are in great shape so I believe I did well cause they are a matched pair.

Eddie
Eddie Witt 27 Aug 2011
#12
Hello,

I welcome any information about Hiatt spurs, as in "spurs, not handcuffs". Neither the chairman of nor the historian at Hiatts are aware Hiatt ever made spurs, yet Hiatt indeed did produce them. If anyone has light to shed on the subject, please shine it this way.

Cheers,

Jack
I just purchased a pair of Hiatt BRIMM with the underscore M. the heel area has wear but you can make out that they are nickle. These also have a M108 stamped on the shank going to the spur, so I am thinking they are military but I have no idea of value or time frame that they were used. They came with full leather straps with a 10 punched on each flap. Any info on these would be greatly appreciated, I paid $40 for the pair and they are in great shape so I believe I did well cause they are a matched pair.

Eddie
Anonymous 28 Aug 2011
#13
Hello,

I welcome any information about Hiatt spurs, as in "spurs, not handcuffs". Neither the chairman of nor the historian at Hiatts are aware Hiatt ever made spurs, yet Hiatt indeed did produce them. If anyone has light to shed on the subject, please shine it this way.

Cheers,

Jack
Wow! X3
Anonymous 28 Aug 2011
#14
Hello,

I welcome any information about Hiatt spurs, as in "spurs, not handcuffs". Neither the chairman of nor the historian at Hiatts are aware Hiatt ever made spurs, yet Hiatt indeed did produce them. If anyone has light to shed on the subject, please shine it this way.

Cheers,

Jack
Three legged guy needs three spurs
June Knott 22 Jan 2014
#15
Hello,

I welcome any information about Hiatt spurs, as in "spurs, not handcuffs". Neither the chairman of nor the historian at Hiatts are aware Hiatt ever made spurs, yet Hiatt indeed did produce them. If anyone has light to shed on the subject, please shine it this way.

Cheers,

Jack
Hi i have 2 pairs of these spurs, can you shine a light on how much they are actually worth please, as thinking of selling them, also have a rusty iron pair, that i think are older and could be cleaned up to be functional.
Lionel Gooch 05 Dec 2016
#16
Hello,

I welcome any information about Hiatt spurs, as in "spurs, not handcuffs". Neither the chairman of nor the historian at Hiatts are aware Hiatt ever made spurs, yet Hiatt indeed did produce them. If anyone has light to shed on the subject, please shine it this way.

Cheers,

Jack
I have just acquired a pair of these in a job lot from an auction.They are stamped as being "solid nickel". I thought they were banned many years ago as cruelty to horses?